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how do you come down. >> i have the most are spec for senator mccain, john mccain and a true war hero that the senate looks up to. with that we respectfully have a difference of opinion on this. in west virginia we basically are a hockey state and we felt that when our country was attacked on 9/11 we had every right and responsibility to go get the people that did damage that killed 3,000 americans. we've done that, we've killed osama bin laden. we've crippled al-qaeda. now i guess are we going to be there forever? is our mission now to occupy that country in some way, shape or form forever? i don't believe so. i believe that's wrong. i believe we need to come back home and rebuild america. i think we have to be original and basically with the war on terror have our operational forces our strategic forces who are able to go anywhere and be able to strike at any time. before someone comes to america or does harm to americans? i believe in that. but a war of occupation will be occupy these countries is not one we signed up for. it was not the mission given to us 123450eu6789. >> schieff
how do you come down. >> i have the most are spec for senator mccain, john mccain and a true war hero that the senate looks up to. with that we respectfully have a difference of opinion on this. in west virginia we basically are a hockey state and we felt that when our country was attacked on 9/11 we had every right and responsibility to go get the people that did damage that killed 3,000 americans. we've done that, we've killed osama bin laden. we've crippled al-qaeda. now i guess are we...
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mccain, which could foretell what we may hear from john mccain. we haven't heard really very much from him about chuck hagel in this context. we have certainly heard from lindsey graham, and we'll hear from john cornyn coming up on this program who has been fiercely critical. >> i would say andrea two people to watch. you've got one. mccain absolutely because he was someone that was close to chuck hagel. kind of the reform-minded republicans. they clearly broke, parted ways on iraq. i do think that chuck hagel, politics does always matter. i think the fact that chuck hagel full throatedly endorsed bob kerry in nebraska in 2012 will not sit well with other republicans. i think the other senator we need to watch, which this is chuck schumer, the new york democrat, very powerful form heard of the senatorial campaign committee, you know, widely seen as probably the next leader of the democrats and the senate. who was skeptical about the idea of a hagel pick, in part, because of his past statements on israel. schumer, i assume, will get in line. though
mccain, which could foretell what we may hear from john mccain. we haven't heard really very much from him about chuck hagel in this context. we have certainly heard from lindsey graham, and we'll hear from john cornyn coming up on this program who has been fiercely critical. >> i would say andrea two people to watch. you've got one. mccain absolutely because he was someone that was close to chuck hagel. kind of the reform-minded republicans. they clearly broke, parted ways on iraq. i do...
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and they quietly say we line up behind john mccain. i think john mccain is critical here, but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has to understand that crossing a war hero who saved his brother's life, who is in the mainstream far more so than lindsey graham, in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy, you know, it's going to be a hard guy for mitch mcconnell to vote against. >> as john points out, mcconnell gushed over chuck hagel when he left the senate. on the floor of the senate, he gave a speech that went on and on about chuck hagel. let's be clear, a lot of this is about israel. you heard lindsey graham say it. john mccain has said it as well. they think chuck hagel will be too soft on iran. he suggested maybe that there should be negotiations with hamas, something that people like lindsey graham reject out of hand. that's a big piece of all this. >> if they stop him, it will be on israel and iran. that's, i think, the only issue that potentially stops him. >> remember, he's the secretary of defense. the president's policies are
and they quietly say we line up behind john mccain. i think john mccain is critical here, but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has to understand that crossing a war hero who saved his brother's life, who is in the mainstream far more so than lindsey graham, in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy, you know, it's going to be a hard guy for mitch mcconnell to vote against. >> as john points out, mcconnell gushed over chuck hagel when he left the senate. on the floor of the senate, he...
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john mccain spoke out a little bit against him. his statement about brennan was a lot less harsh than the one about hagel. it looks like he's in good shape some of the civil liberties groups may want to testify at brennan's hearing. the question is how much, if anything, did he know about waterboarding and these other interrogation techniques during the bush administration. he said he wasn't involved. that will be the big question at his hearing. >> bill: david you and i have seen john brennan on the few times he's come into the white house briefing room. i remember particularly when he came in right after the osama bin laden mission right and described to us what happened. it turned out some of the information he gave us was not correct. he was giving all of the information he had at the time. he's always impressed me as one tough cookie. >> very much so. yes. he's a 24/7 kind of guy. always on the job. everything that happens you see brennan briefing the president. he's always around. rare guys who has good contacts in both parti
john mccain spoke out a little bit against him. his statement about brennan was a lot less harsh than the one about hagel. it looks like he's in good shape some of the civil liberties groups may want to testify at brennan's hearing. the question is how much, if anything, did he know about waterboarding and these other interrogation techniques during the bush administration. he said he wasn't involved. that will be the big question at his hearing. >> bill: david you and i have seen john...
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on john mccain, chuck hagel one of four republican senators that endorsed john mccain when he was running against george w. bush in the 2000 primary and it was tested in the 2008 campaign and strained because of what chuck hagel did in that campaign but i think the odds are that if the president sticks with this nomination and there's ever reason to think he will, that the democratic concerns are likely to melt away substantially and there will be a big chunk of republicans that vote against him but not likely enough to derail the nomination. >> thank you very much. happy new year. >> happy new year. >> after the nomination of hagel, ben cardi inform of maryland issued a statement saying, in part, quote, i have concerns based on positions he's taken and statements he has taken on a variety of topics. thank you for joining us, sir. >> nice to be with you, tamron. >> we have heard senator john mccain and the republican party having serious concerns but here you are a democrat and tammy baldwin a new member of the senate, also, expressing some concerns but do you believe that in the end chuc
on john mccain, chuck hagel one of four republican senators that endorsed john mccain when he was running against george w. bush in the 2000 primary and it was tested in the 2008 campaign and strained because of what chuck hagel did in that campaign but i think the odds are that if the president sticks with this nomination and there's ever reason to think he will, that the democratic concerns are likely to melt away substantially and there will be a big chunk of republicans that vote against...
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john mccain is a true national hero, so is chuck hagel. i have been at dinners, i was the emcee at the nixon dinner paying tribute to john kyl. john mccain did the opening. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we are here. this is why we have the capital behind us for these major discussions. i think it was a problem for chuck hagel because he demonstrated independence of thought and questioning that was vital for the country. host: i want to go back to something you said and frame it in terms of what the president said. about and afghanistan, saying iraq was a war of choice. afghanistan was a war of necessity and iraq was a war of choice. was iraq necessary? and if so, why? what did we accomplish? guest: we have not accomplished much. host: so was it worth it? guest: it depends on a lot of factors that are out of my control. terrible tyrant to his people there is no question we're better off with him gone. then the question is how we implemented doing th
john mccain is a true national hero, so is chuck hagel. i have been at dinners, i was the emcee at the nixon dinner paying tribute to john kyl. john mccain did the opening. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we are here. this is why we have the capital behind us for these major discussions. i think it was a problem for chuck hagel because he demonstrated independence of thought and questioning that was vital...
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same john mccain. mitch mcconnell who says there will be tough questions for hagel. >>> is john mccain just a bitter man because president obama beat him and he's just bitter and keeps attacking whatever the president does and mitch mcconnell is still trying to live up to his saying that will make him a one-term president and in the second term, he's still trying to ruin the obama presidency? >> i think this is all a question of sour grapes. you said it first. leaving aside chuck hagel's qualifications, and he's as fine a man that ever served in the senate, number one. number two, not all of the good thing that is you dlelineated ad the president delineated, but he's probably done the most in the history of the senate. he's been e norronormously effe. i think guys like me who entered the army as privates, that warms our heart all over. he's a great pick. what you said correctly, reverend sharpton, wlen you said the president has the right to pick his own team. it's always been the tradition in america.
same john mccain. mitch mcconnell who says there will be tough questions for hagel. >>> is john mccain just a bitter man because president obama beat him and he's just bitter and keeps attacking whatever the president does and mitch mcconnell is still trying to live up to his saying that will make him a one-term president and in the second term, he's still trying to ruin the obama presidency? >> i think this is all a question of sour grapes. you said it first. leaving aside chuck...
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what's the attraction of john mccain. it is the myth. it is a myth. >> because the producers feel that if they book john mccain he will say something crazy. >> yeah. you know why? because he is freakin' crazy. right? >> yeah. >> so what do you get? a nut, saying nutty stuff. we are supposed to -- is it supposed to mean anything? nobody pays any attention to john mccain except lindsey graham. this is the mainstream media feeding kind of the circus mental mentaltality of our political discourse right now, especially on the right. it's a shame. >> the honest to god. >> on the "full-court press." great to see you my man. love you. a friend of bill. all right. i will be back. i will tell you what the president is up to today. a busy day. >> this is "the bill press show." [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet but they're gonna fall in love get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] be
what's the attraction of john mccain. it is the myth. it is a myth. >> because the producers feel that if they book john mccain he will say something crazy. >> yeah. you know why? because he is freakin' crazy. right? >> yeah. >> so what do you get? a nut, saying nutty stuff. we are supposed to -- is it supposed to mean anything? nobody pays any attention to john mccain except lindsey graham. this is the mainstream media feeding kind of the circus mental mentaltality of...
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. >> one of the really key figures in this nomination, john mccain of arizona, an old friend of chuck hagel released a statement saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues in recent years." there also appear to be reservations on the democratic side as well. members of that party are stopping short in some cases of offering hagel a full throated endorsement. some democrats have already backed them. senator chuck schumer of new york released a statement of his own reading in part, "chuck hagel has earned the right to nothing less than a full and fair process in the senate. i look forward to fully studying his report and exploring his views." at the white house yesterday, hagel didn't address the controversy shoundiurrounding h nomination. >> mr. president, i'm grateful for this opportunity to serve our country again. and especially its men and women in uniform and their families. these are people who give so much to this nation every day with such dignity and selflessness. i'll always do my best. i doll my be
. >> one of the really key figures in this nomination, john mccain of arizona, an old friend of chuck hagel released a statement saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues in recent years." there also appear to be reservations on the democratic side as well. members of that party are stopping short in some cases of offering hagel a full throated endorsement. some democrats have already backed them....
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i don't think john mccain and knows what he will do. i think the hearings for chuck hagel and the vetting process in congress and the media will have a big impact on the final results. host: we are asking our viewers this morning to tell us what they think are the foreign policy challenges in 2013. if chuck hagel were to get that spot, what does he face? guest: he will face a range of foreign policy challenges. it is almost unprecedented -- we are talking about a military that is tired and worn out after 10 years of war, facing fiscal challenges, and austerity that is unprecedented in american politics which brings pressure on all the budget that secretary hagel have to be in charge of. we're talking of instability in the middle east and north africa which is getting worse and worse including libya and egypt and syria and pakistan. we are talking about a world that is changing and is less responsive to u.s. pressure and u.s. military power and diplomacy. that changes something that chuck hagel is aware of and he has well-formed views on
i don't think john mccain and knows what he will do. i think the hearings for chuck hagel and the vetting process in congress and the media will have a big impact on the final results. host: we are asking our viewers this morning to tell us what they think are the foreign policy challenges in 2013. if chuck hagel were to get that spot, what does he face? guest: he will face a range of foreign policy challenges. it is almost unprecedented -- we are talking about a military that is tired and worn...
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the comment about, this is not chuck hagel's war, what john mccain said, john mccain clearly is coming from a different time in terms of the military and military action. if we look of the history books, we need to stop taking advice from these guys who were in the military and start looking at people who actually have served as opposed to the couch starker's -- talkers. host: can i ask you to review the relationship and how it has evolved between john mccain and chuck hagel? they came in both veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, yet their relationship evolved and there is some question as to whether or not john mccain will support chuck hagel. guest: it has evolved. there was a natural affinity between them because of their service in vietnam. knowing senator mccain the way i do, i do not know senator hagel, he has always been somebody who reaches out to a variety of different folks. he has an immense number of friends on the other side of the aisle. he is a very personable person. i do think over time, the differences between the two senators about iraq, afghanistan, and other
the comment about, this is not chuck hagel's war, what john mccain said, john mccain clearly is coming from a different time in terms of the military and military action. if we look of the history books, we need to stop taking advice from these guys who were in the military and start looking at people who actually have served as opposed to the couch starker's -- talkers. host: can i ask you to review the relationship and how it has evolved between john mccain and chuck hagel? they came in both...
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john mccain is a verylose friend of mine. there's no one i admire more than john mccain. we think alike on many things. we are different too. i disagree with john. john disgrease with me on issues. but how all this plays out over the next two years, i don't know. but regardless of how it plays out he will always be a good friend and i will always be a great admirer of his and i'm grateful for his service to our country. >> can you see yourself running, if he runs, will that impede you from running if he says i'm going again? >> well, brian, i think in this business, or any major decision one makes in your life, that decision has to come from you first. it's got toome from you, the considerations, or your family or other personal issues. then you start working through the more external conditions. you know in this business that if you run for president there will be many very qualified candidates out there, some will be good friends, i suspect. you know that. and you factor that in. and you're not unmindful of that kind of competition. and that kind of competition is good
john mccain is a verylose friend of mine. there's no one i admire more than john mccain. we think alike on many things. we are different too. i disagree with john. john disgrease with me on issues. but how all this plays out over the next two years, i don't know. but regardless of how it plays out he will always be a good friend and i will always be a great admirer of his and i'm grateful for his service to our country. >> can you see yourself running, if he runs, will that impede you...
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>> and how much of this is about republican politics, he didn't support john mccain. even though they were former friends. a lot of republicans question whether he's really republican. >> i think on foreign policy, he clearly differs from republicans on foreign policy. he may be a strong fiscal conservative in those ways. >> but he would say, how do you define -- >> but if he defines himself as a republican, he will get a nomination, but clearly that's not the case. clearly president obama is choosing to spend political capital on this nomination. there are other things, refusing to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization, something that 88 senators signed a letter on. he was one of 12 who refused to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization. there are multiple positions like that which the american public will get to see, the senate will get to ask him questions about, and beyond that, there are left-wing groups that are against him. even though he apologized about his comments about gays. this is a time where the military is reintegrating, they're gett
>> and how much of this is about republican politics, he didn't support john mccain. even though they were former friends. a lot of republicans question whether he's really republican. >> i think on foreign policy, he clearly differs from republicans on foreign policy. he may be a strong fiscal conservative in those ways. >> but he would say, how do you define -- >> but if he defines himself as a republican, he will get a nomination, but clearly that's not the case....
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and you know, again, it's -- if it's john mccain going up against chuck hagel, you know, i think john mccain has the market cornered on bluntness. i hardly think -- i hardly think that he's going to be offendsed other than for theater. >> 100% certain he'll be confirmed? >> i don't, i don't think -- when you don't have a natural constituency and republicans look at someone who they've abandoned, there's always an open question, but i think if he goes in and does what people who know him know he can do, democrats will come around and i think he'll even get republican votes. >> joe lockhart, good to see you. >> in 2011 he says he thinks the pentagon is bloated or was in favor of an 80% reduction in u.s. nuclear weapons. other than that, this is not somebody who offered a lot of specifics. is that where the real battle is going to be fought? >> sure. as the paper also reports, the president and congress have ordered $500 billion of cuts from the pentagon over next ten years. where those cuts come from is going to be part -- where they are going to come from is going to be part of the bat
and you know, again, it's -- if it's john mccain going up against chuck hagel, you know, i think john mccain has the market cornered on bluntness. i hardly think -- i hardly think that he's going to be offendsed other than for theater. >> 100% certain he'll be confirmed? >> i don't, i don't think -- when you don't have a natural constituency and republicans look at someone who they've abandoned, there's always an open question, but i think if he goes in and does what people who know...
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. >> john mccain still has questions about what role brennan played in enhanced interrogation and why he publicly seemed to support it and he intends to ask those questions. mccain a long time critic of water boarding. >> bret: thank you. the president's pick to run the c.i.a. spent 25 years there. katherine tells us john brennan may face a contentious battle. >> to his controversial statements that the c.i.a. interrogation program brennan himself acknowledged. >> i told the presidential today i'm the president's assistant on counterterrorism. i told him that i will do better and we will do better as a time teem. >> they accuse the obama administration of negligence the underwear bomber was read his miranda rights and lawyered up hours after. they say intelligence was lost for good. we need no lecture. writing quote, politically motivated criticism only serves the goals of al-qaeda, the notion that america's system of justice are unable to handle these murderous... >> he was describing water boarding as inconsistent with american values in a november 2007 interview, brennan also told
. >> john mccain still has questions about what role brennan played in enhanced interrogation and why he publicly seemed to support it and he intends to ask those questions. mccain a long time critic of water boarding. >> bret: thank you. the president's pick to run the c.i.a. spent 25 years there. katherine tells us john brennan may face a contentious battle. >> to his controversial statements that the c.i.a. interrogation program brennan himself acknowledged. >> i told...
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they were denouncing john mccain as a liberal gun grabber. not only did they not endorse mccain in his 2008 election, they gave him an f rating on their a to f scale as a politician. this competing group with the nra touts an endorsement on their web page from ron paul. ron paul calling them the only no compromise gun lobby in washington. because you know those nra guys, they're the appeasers. and to prove it the gun owners of america points to moments like after the virginia tech shooting when the nra agreed to go along with an effort by the brady campaign to try to tighten up the part of federal background checks to keep people with diagnosed mental ill nets from getting their hands on weapons like the virginia tech shooter did. the n rachlt did work on that with the brady campaign even though nothing came out of that. but the gun owners of america opposed that work. consider the bill that passed the republican-controlled house in 2011. it would force states to accept permits for concealed weapons that were issued in other states. even if t
they were denouncing john mccain as a liberal gun grabber. not only did they not endorse mccain in his 2008 election, they gave him an f rating on their a to f scale as a politician. this competing group with the nra touts an endorsement on their web page from ron paul. ron paul calling them the only no compromise gun lobby in washington. because you know those nra guys, they're the appeasers. and to prove it the gun owners of america points to moments like after the virginia tech shooting when...
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then, senator john mccain and others speak at the annual halifax security forum on the u.s. role in global politics. and later we're live from the brookings institution with a forum on potential budget cuts to defense spending and how they could affect the nation's national security. >> host: well, with the 113th congress convening this month, we thought we'd take this opportunity on "the communicators" and look at their legislative agenda and the policy agenda of the federal communications commission. joining us are three reporters who cover technology policy. gautham nagesh of congressional quarterly, what's an issue that you see forthcoming in the next congress? >> guest: well, i think cybersecurity remains the top priority because of its national security implications. we saw that congress failed to reach an agreement on cybersecurity legislation in 2012 as perhaps many would have predicted. they remain very far apart because industry is very opposed to any sort of cybersecurity standards. that being said, the administration has threatened to implement a lot of their leg
then, senator john mccain and others speak at the annual halifax security forum on the u.s. role in global politics. and later we're live from the brookings institution with a forum on potential budget cuts to defense spending and how they could affect the nation's national security. >> host: well, with the 113th congress convening this month, we thought we'd take this opportunity on "the communicators" and look at their legislative agenda and the policy agenda of the federal...
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mccain's lead on most things. >> it's worse that we don't know where john mccain is on this. >> he has been such a follower on so many issues so far that i -- him saying that, you know, this is a guy who is running the atlantic council and that's out of the mainstream. i think there's a little -- a credibility check. the challenge, i think, for the administration is going to be that this nomination means they're going to have to do work on both the democratic and the republican side, and, you know, usually when you are a democratic president, it's who are the key men who have worked on these nominations. who are the key republican senators? we're going to have to go and see, and in this case they're going to have to do real work on both sides. the other thing that was surprising was they let this nomination hang out there so long to the point that these narratives started -- about the jewish lobby and the gay community and sort of, you know, the republicans. i mean, it's been hanging out there for several weeks, so that also means they're going to have to do a lot of work to really tur
mccain's lead on most things. >> it's worse that we don't know where john mccain is on this. >> he has been such a follower on so many issues so far that i -- him saying that, you know, this is a guy who is running the atlantic council and that's out of the mainstream. i think there's a little -- a credibility check. the challenge, i think, for the administration is going to be that this nomination means they're going to have to do work on both the democratic and the republican...
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and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack obama says about his own cabinet. another thing important to mention here is like matt was saying a bit is, take the john brennan pick. the john kerry pick. obama's trying to surround himself with people he really is friends with and likes. the first term was people like hillary clinton, jim jones, bob gates. they're big names. those aren't necessarily obama allies. brennan, hagel, kerry, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to see you, congressman, good morning. >> thank you. good morning. >> do you think if this fight if it does materialize over chuck hagel could have the effect o
and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack obama says about his own cabinet. another thing important to mention here is like matt was saying a bit is, take the john brennan pick. the john kerry pick. obama's trying to...
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i would also point out, wolf, that john mccain is on the same side as the liberal civil rights group the aclu in this. they are raising the same kinds of questions. even though in the past, brennan has said that he opposes these enhanced interrogation techniques. >> we'll watch these confirmation hearings every step of the way. >> should be interesting, both of them. >> low flying helicopters have people in some of the country's biggest cities asking questions. the answers have to do with preparations for a possible terrorist attack. using radioactive dirty bombs. >>> plus, before we get to that, we have some new details emerging about the colorado theater shootings, including the suspect's strange behavior once he was caught. uncer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called
i would also point out, wolf, that john mccain is on the same side as the liberal civil rights group the aclu in this. they are raising the same kinds of questions. even though in the past, brennan has said that he opposes these enhanced interrogation techniques. >> we'll watch these confirmation hearings every step of the way. >> should be interesting, both of them. >> low flying helicopters have people in some of the country's biggest cities asking questions. the answers...
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i'll ask john mccain. and a lottery winner poisoned with sigh nycyanide. and the terrifying end to a hot air balloon ride this wedding party will never forget. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> the push for new gun laws in the wake of the connecticut school shooting has a powerful new voice, the congresswoman gabriel giffords. she was gravely wounded in a mass shooting exactly two years ago today. lisa sylvester is here with more on what's going on. >> leaders from both the private and public sectors are starting to offer specific proposals on gun controls. both sides aware of how sense y sensitive this issue has become. and the leading voice comes from someone with political and personal experience that is sure to command attention here in washington. on the two-year anniversary of the tucson shooting and a week after a visiting to newtown, gabby giffords wants to send a wake-up call to washington when it comes to gun violence. >> when it can happen to children in a classroom, it's time to say -- >> enough. >> reporter: giffords and he
i'll ask john mccain. and a lottery winner poisoned with sigh nycyanide. and the terrifying end to a hot air balloon ride this wedding party will never forget. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> the push for new gun laws in the wake of the connecticut school shooting has a powerful new voice, the congresswoman gabriel giffords. she was gravely wounded in a mass shooting exactly two years ago today. lisa sylvester is here with more on what's going on....
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john mccain has been a politician drought his career driven by personal grudges -- >> like susan rice? >> yes. that was another case part of what was driving him. in this case, i do think part of what he would say, if he were here, back to the policy point, there's no greater champion of the iraq war and surge and everything that happened after that than john mccain was and no greater critic of that than republican chuck hagel. he would make the case it is not just a personal thing although i believe part of it is personal and this element they do have very different world views now. >> which is why the confirmation hearing and his answers will be that much more critical than earlier. >> they also, as you mentioned, harold, reservations from democrats with members of the party stopping short of offering hagel a full throated endorsement. senator chuck schumer of new york released a statement reading in part quote chuck hagel has earned the right to nothing less than a full and fair process in the senate. i look forward to fully studying his record and exploring his views. at the white
john mccain has been a politician drought his career driven by personal grudges -- >> like susan rice? >> yes. that was another case part of what was driving him. in this case, i do think part of what he would say, if he were here, back to the policy point, there's no greater champion of the iraq war and surge and everything that happened after that than john mccain was and no greater critic of that than republican chuck hagel. he would make the case it is not just a personal thing...
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senator john mccain doesn't think it could either and john mccain explained this morning why he doesn't think an assault weapons ban should pass congress and he used the overseas example of mass murderer. >> we obviously have a situation where crazy people, deranged individuals, have access to guns. how do you do that? in norway, a country with the most stringent gun laws, a guy was able to slaughter a huge number of people in norway. we need to look at it in the entirety. >> senator john mccain does not believe taking guns away from people will reduce gun violence but he thinks public safety would improve by figuring out a way to keep guns out of the hands of deranged individuals something that the democratic senator murphy agrees with but murphy wants to go further with a strict assault weapons ban. he described that legislation this morning. >> it is a tighter ban than the previous ban. it will address high capacity bans. as soon as we passed that ban in 1990's the gun manufacturers found another way around it and other states have stricter bans and that is what the congress needs to
senator john mccain doesn't think it could either and john mccain explained this morning why he doesn't think an assault weapons ban should pass congress and he used the overseas example of mass murderer. >> we obviously have a situation where crazy people, deranged individuals, have access to guns. how do you do that? in norway, a country with the most stringent gun laws, a guy was able to slaughter a huge number of people in norway. we need to look at it in the entirety. >>...
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mccain will end up voting for chuck hagel? >> i don't know if he will or won't, but i know when i believe that chuck hagel will probably be confirmed and that they will find a way back to a friendship or at least a good relationship. >> because of the vietnam experience. >> i think that most people disagree. i believe that chuck shum schumer will vote for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is dealing with right now as joe biden continues meetings on the gun issue today. chris alissa, when we talk about president obama and what he is facing in changing his team, when david gregory asked
mccain will end up voting for chuck hagel? >> i don't know if he will or won't, but i know when i believe that chuck hagel will probably be confirmed and that they will find a way back to a friendship or at least a good relationship. >> because of the vietnam experience. >> i think that most people disagree. i believe that chuck shum schumer will vote for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the...
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john mccain clearly is coming from a different time. i think we are going to start looking at the history books -- we should start looking at people who have served as opposed to these couch talkers. host: can i take a step back and ask you about the relationship and how it has a vault between john mccain and chuck hagel? the bulls came in veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, and now the relationship has evolved. there is question as to whether john mccain support chuck hagel. guest: it has evolved. knowing senator mccain the way i do, he has always been somebody to reaches out to a variety of different folks. he has friends of the other side. i do think the differences between the two senators about barack and afghanistan and other issues -- about iraq and afghanistan and other issues -- all of those things have led to a divergence. the fact that they are no longer best buddies -- at the end of the day washington is about politics. there are opposed opinions to this key security measure. host: chuck hagel served as the chair of t
john mccain clearly is coming from a different time. i think we are going to start looking at the history books -- we should start looking at people who have served as opposed to these couch talkers. host: can i take a step back and ask you about the relationship and how it has a vault between john mccain and chuck hagel? the bulls came in veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, and now the relationship has evolved. there is question as to whether john mccain support chuck hagel. guest: it...
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i want to talk about john mccain. a lot of people were looking forward to exactly how he would come out and post on the issue of chuck hagel go to secretary of defense. i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues in recent years. that's his most recent statement. however, back when he was running for president, he was quote the as saying that he would make a great secretary of state if john mccain were to pick chuck hagel to appear in his cabinet. is that because now it's a reality that chuck hagel is up for the most aopposed to the imagery when he was running for president? >> we're getting to the point where it's a possibility and it could happen. they are looking at the toe talty of all of this. mccain has a great deal of respect for hagel and tremendous service in vietnam. that in and of itself doesn't qualify or disqualify him as the position of defense secretary. what people are looking at, particularly republicans, hagel prided himself on speak
i want to talk about john mccain. a lot of people were looking forward to exactly how he would come out and post on the issue of chuck hagel go to secretary of defense. i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues in recent years. that's his most recent statement. however, back when he was running for president, he was quote the as saying that he would make a great secretary of state if john mccain were to pick chuck hagel to...
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mccain in 2008. he stressed independence from the jewish lobby. critics biggest concern is whether he is tough enough on iran. >> secretary panetta, the current secretary of defense said there is a red line there over which we will not allow iran to cross. the president had different times has said the same thing. chuck hagel has said previously that he doesn't believe that we ought to keep all options on the table when it comes to an iranian nuclear threat. >> the white house says hagel has been strongly supportive of israel's security. they say his views are insync with the president. as you alluded hagel apologized for calling a u.s. dip openly aggressively gay 14 years ago. shepard? >> shepard: much less opposition to john brennan's nomination, correct? >> there do seem to be fewer concerns but that doesn't mean less concerns. 25 years at the cia before becoming the president's counter terrorism advisor. he was considered for the cia post in 2008 but withdrew his name because he didn't want the c
mccain in 2008. he stressed independence from the jewish lobby. critics biggest concern is whether he is tough enough on iran. >> secretary panetta, the current secretary of defense said there is a red line there over which we will not allow iran to cross. the president had different times has said the same thing. chuck hagel has said previously that he doesn't believe that we ought to keep all options on the table when it comes to an iranian nuclear threat. >> the white house says...
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john mccain, lindsey graham. they were the original band of mavericks. not only did they say nice things when he was leaving. they went out on the campaign trail together. if they think he is a turncoat, what do they think joe lieberman is? it's a joke. they lost their minds over susan rice. they're doing it again. >> here is more from senator lindsey graham. >> i'll have a hard time voting for anybody to be secretary of defense who believes that the surge was a foreign policy blunder. i'll have a hard time supporting anybody for secretary of defense who believes that the iranians are misunderstood, we should just negotiate with them, not sanction them. >> they're really focusing in on some of the things that he has said in the past, including a guy slur over a decade ago. do these things matter in confirmation? >> first of all, lindsey graham is treated with a lot of respect as some kind of national security expert. but it is quite possible to be pro-israeli and also not for a rush to war with iran. it is not incompatible. in people in israel think it's
john mccain, lindsey graham. they were the original band of mavericks. not only did they say nice things when he was leaving. they went out on the campaign trail together. if they think he is a turncoat, what do they think joe lieberman is? it's a joke. they lost their minds over susan rice. they're doing it again. >> here is more from senator lindsey graham. >> i'll have a hard time voting for anybody to be secretary of defense who believes that the surge was a foreign policy...
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guest: i applaud with john mccain said about interrogation. he has been saying for ever that torture does not work and he should know. he was in the hanoi hilton for so long and tortured by north vietnam during the war. he is right, in my view. i did serve on the intelligence committee for eight years. i was there in the 1990's and came back and was a ranking member. i think we should look at interrogation policies and look at detention policies and we should look at drone policies. before this nomination, john brennan asked to come to the wilson center which i now head, he asked to comment talk about the legal framework around drone policy. it should not be our foreign policy. it is a tool but many of our tools should be developed through prom -- diplomacy and soft power and john brennan understands this. one thing i hope he will do after he is confirmed, and i predict he will be, is take a fresh look at the cia mission, reduce the paramilitary part of that mission, that should be offloaded mostly to the pentagon with the exception of an inte
guest: i applaud with john mccain said about interrogation. he has been saying for ever that torture does not work and he should know. he was in the hanoi hilton for so long and tortured by north vietnam during the war. he is right, in my view. i did serve on the intelligence committee for eight years. i was there in the 1990's and came back and was a ranking member. i think we should look at interrogation policies and look at detention policies and we should look at drone policies. before this...
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>> norman rockwell. >> stephanie: john mccain said that. he said he's not really a republican by his standards which are new apparently. jim, who said hagel was a respected leader in america who served his country admirably with honor and distinction? >> sarah palin. >> stephanie: no. [ buzzer ] also john mccain. of chuck hagel. >> interesting. when did that change? [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said chuck hagel has a clear voice on foreign policy and national security? >> who said that? john mclean. >> stephanie: no. senator mitch mcconnell. he said that previously about chuck hagel. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said hagel understands the world better than almost anyone. who said that? >> some hypocrite? >> stephanie: right. [ buzzer ] [ ding ding ] >> stephanie: that would be senator lamar alexander from tennessee. seem to have a different feeling about him at some previous point. senator dick durbin yesterday. >> a person has a -- include service on the foreign relationses committee. yes, he's a serious
>> norman rockwell. >> stephanie: john mccain said that. he said he's not really a republican by his standards which are new apparently. jim, who said hagel was a respected leader in america who served his country admirably with honor and distinction? >> sarah palin. >> stephanie: no. [ buzzer ] also john mccain. of chuck hagel. >> interesting. when did that change? [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said chuck hagel has a clear voice on...
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it seems to me john cornyn is not going to be for chuck hagel or john mccain. i doubt they're going to be for chuck hagel, but they don't have to be -- they just have to not filibuster chuck hagel, which i don't think they would do barring something new here. i think if we can do a respectable job with defending some of his more controversial past statements in these hearings they will ultimately not deny his second pick. sfoo gun control and the whole gun issue, it's the second anniversary of tucson. we have the hearing, preliminary hearing for james holmes out in aurora, colorado, and awful testimony coming out of that all week. if you are reporting this as well, that the nra has been invited to meet with the biden task force, so that joe biden and his group reaching out to try to at least touch base with, of course, the most vigorous and best organized opponents of any kind of gun lobby. >> it would be shock if anything they didn't. they're not going to have a chance if there isn't an effort to reach out the nra and see if there is any possibility of common
it seems to me john cornyn is not going to be for chuck hagel or john mccain. i doubt they're going to be for chuck hagel, but they don't have to be -- they just have to not filibuster chuck hagel, which i don't think they would do barring something new here. i think if we can do a respectable job with defending some of his more controversial past statements in these hearings they will ultimately not deny his second pick. sfoo gun control and the whole gun issue, it's the second anniversary of...
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john kerry, a democrat. bob kerrey, a democrat. chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over the questions of the use of force. then they split, of course, when barack obama ran for president. chuck hagel's wife endorsed barack obama when he was a candidate. chuck hagel stopped short of it. lots of republicans don't believe hague sl a republican, by the way. mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate yesterday hold his fire, as jim was pointing out, hold his fire. didn't come out against the nominati nomination. everybody has their own po
john kerry, a democrat. bob kerrey, a democrat. chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >>...
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i would mention john mccain in that category of disagreements they've had in the past, but also to hold the president's feet to the fire on other things they want to have more on the table. gwen: i have a hard time imagining senator schumer, a leading democrat, in the end -- he may hold out his support but in the end, not supporting the president's choice. >> no, and hagel's going to say what schumer wants to hear about support for israel. there's no question about that. gwen: already has. >> and he's calling senate ofss saying he's a strong supporter of israel but on the point of, if he's going to not get confirmed, i would find that shocking because the president will line up behind the -- democrats will line up behind the president's choice. >> two purple hearts. gwen: john brennan has to be confirmed and he's been the architect, for many democrats, a far more troubling policy of targeting killings and drones. >> the drone policy, right. i would imagine that his confirmation hearing, as they should be, a full discussion about what the president's policies are going forward and are.hi
i would mention john mccain in that category of disagreements they've had in the past, but also to hold the president's feet to the fire on other things they want to have more on the table. gwen: i have a hard time imagining senator schumer, a leading democrat, in the end -- he may hold out his support but in the end, not supporting the president's choice. >> no, and hagel's going to say what schumer wants to hear about support for israel. there's no question about that. gwen: already...
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john mccain is a war hero. everybody can say whatever they want about chuck hagel but he's awful for the job and i hope he does not get confirmed. c-span is to answer republicans when they call. host: we are trying to take a number of calls. we have all three lines open. you can see the numbers on your screen. we will try again to get alton on the independent line. let's go on and to carl in chicago, a democrat line. caller: i have done research on both of the gentlemen. hagel been a republican, i think the president is doing what he is doing, reaching across both sides of the aisle. it seems the opposition to chuck hagel it is the same group of naysayers like senator gramm and the rest of them that are immediately passing them before they have a chance. john brennan would make an excellent cia director. he has the credentials. he has the strength. even though chuck hagel's role is going to be a bumpy one, i believe it will be confirmed with this 113 congress. the president is appointing a republican to this po
john mccain is a war hero. everybody can say whatever they want about chuck hagel but he's awful for the job and i hope he does not get confirmed. c-span is to answer republicans when they call. host: we are trying to take a number of calls. we have all three lines open. you can see the numbers on your screen. we will try again to get alton on the independent line. let's go on and to carl in chicago, a democrat line. caller: i have done research on both of the gentlemen. hagel been a...
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. >> and if you're john mccain i am sure there is something you could find about him, maybe that he works for a guy called barack obama. that would be enough. the fact that he negotiated a deal, which republicans didn't fare well in, in terms of the tax deal. this guy is so confirmable. >> all right, richard wolff gets the last word. >>> out of the way. obama's coming. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. i think we're looking at a new barack obama. you know the expression let reagan be reagan. i think we're seeing barack obama be barack obama. an in your face challenge to the right wing. he's putting in a guy who knows the lessons of vietnam and iraq and putting him out front, making him his point man as he goes into the war of hawkish republicans who count the months between wars as an unwanted time-out. who like nothing more than the next war to fight. meet barack obama two. he's going to run the way he believes to do it. i like it. i think there's one guy out there by the way ironically rooting for obama. it's t
. >> and if you're john mccain i am sure there is something you could find about him, maybe that he works for a guy called barack obama. that would be enough. the fact that he negotiated a deal, which republicans didn't fare well in, in terms of the tax deal. this guy is so confirmable. >> all right, richard wolff gets the last word. >>> out of the way. obama's coming. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me...
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>> i think the fed, john mccain is keeping an open mind on this. that's encouraging if you're chuck hagel in the white house. but i would argue that the most critical meeting chuck hagel will have in the coming days is chuck schumer. he has to be able to answer the questions of the new york senator because he can bring along as many as ten democrats. i was counting last week his statement was coming out after the nomination was announced. notably, the junior senator from new york who takes a lot of cues from chuck schumer. several other senators who are beholden to schumer for helping them get elected in 2006-2008. if the most prominent jewish senator on the democratic side of is there, it could be very difficult for him to get an easy confirmation vote. >> ed o'keefe, michael, thank you. >> thank you. >>> just a reminder, we will have the press conference live here on msnbc that is coming up in about an hour, 11:15. >>> big night for the golden glo glob glob globes for politics. dab el day-lewis won best actor for "lincoln," jessica best actress f
>> i think the fed, john mccain is keeping an open mind on this. that's encouraging if you're chuck hagel in the white house. but i would argue that the most critical meeting chuck hagel will have in the coming days is chuck schumer. he has to be able to answer the questions of the new york senator because he can bring along as many as ten democrats. i was counting last week his statement was coming out after the nomination was announced. notably, the junior senator from new york who...
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other than from the predetermined one from john mccain? >> john mccain and lindsay graham and a few others may say it. very important to go back to the debt ceiling debate, we came to the edge of real financial crisis in this country. guess who was on jon stewart and stephen colbert, saying we are spending $120 billion in a country, and it's not good for america. grover norquist. this afghanistan war is not in their interest from a financial perspective from his work i think you really begin to see a quick collapse of conservative support. progressives and most independents already had a great deal of skepticism about afghanistan, but it's these debt issues that have really driven a real collapse, and there is a real support for iraq and afghanistan. anybody who supports an ongoing troop presence, and the mainstream to use, and lately that folks have tried to rile up chuck hagel. >> one last question briefly about chuck hagel. you and i talked about him before since he was nominated. what do you know about how things are going for senator
other than from the predetermined one from john mccain? >> john mccain and lindsay graham and a few others may say it. very important to go back to the debt ceiling debate, we came to the edge of real financial crisis in this country. guess who was on jon stewart and stephen colbert, saying we are spending $120 billion in a country, and it's not good for america. grover norquist. this afghanistan war is not in their interest from a financial perspective from his work i think you really...
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>> well, i think john mccain and lindsey graham and a few others may say it. but listen, very important to go back to the debt ceiling debate, which we came to the edge of real financial crisis in this country. guess who was on jon stewart and stephen colbert in saying we're spending $120 billion in a country with $14 billion of gdp and it's not good for america. grover norquist. grover norquist was out educating conservatives that this afghanistan war was not in their interests from a financial perspective. forget the strategic questions. and from his work, i think, you really begin to see a quick collapse of conservative support. progressives and i think most independents already had a great deal of skepticism about afghanistan. but it has been these debt issues that have really driven a real collapse of interest and support for afghanistan. so anyone that comes and radically supports an ongoing troop presence in afghanistan is going to look very, very much out of the mainstream to use some of the comments lately that folks have tried to rile up about chuck
>> well, i think john mccain and lindsey graham and a few others may say it. but listen, very important to go back to the debt ceiling debate, which we came to the edge of real financial crisis in this country. guess who was on jon stewart and stephen colbert in saying we're spending $120 billion in a country with $14 billion of gdp and it's not good for america. grover norquist. grover norquist was out educating conservatives that this afghanistan war was not in their interests from a...
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. >> what do you say to john mccain who survived five years of torture in the hanoi hilton and others who are very tough on defense but argue that it's really important for the protection of our troops that we not cross this line, that we have to be who we are because we are giving our enemies a weapon to use against our own if they're captured? >> right. let me be clear. one thing to agree 100% on with senator mccain is the notion that torture is wrong. torture is detrimental to our troops. but again, i was speaking personally about how intellectually and personally i understand the arguments and they're right but on a deep down emotional level, when confronted with the news that osama bin laden had been killed, when the nation was going through the conversation about what role did torture play in getting information that led to his capture and killing, and my thinking, being in this morally conflicted space of thinking, well, you know what? i really don't care what it -- what the government had to do to get to this point. but again, i want to reiterate that i don't want to be put in
. >> what do you say to john mccain who survived five years of torture in the hanoi hilton and others who are very tough on defense but argue that it's really important for the protection of our troops that we not cross this line, that we have to be who we are because we are giving our enemies a weapon to use against our own if they're captured? >> right. let me be clear. one thing to agree 100% on with senator mccain is the notion that torture is wrong. torture is detrimental to...